Well, well, well - so this is the "honest" mother who claims innocence when she also knowingly used false addresses to enroll her kid in Norwalk schools. What a fine example of a good mother - getting caught selling drugs again. Her rap sheet is just getting longer and longer. Where is Sharpton now? The Mayor was right about McDowell after all.

To think all those that had supported her by signing a petition in her favor she sure fooled many. That petition wouldn't have happened if we knew some of her past ahead of time. Looks like she is going to jail, do not stop, and collect $200.

I love it. What's Al Sharpton's email address?

The mayor and the chief get no kudos from me- I know the scope. This is police misconduct- and a mayors abuse of power.

Why did the police make 3 buys from McDowell?
Why not arrested arrested her after the first buy?
Why did they arrested her on friday?

The awswer to question one and two- If you have a low level drug dealer and you want to railroad them- you stack the deck -it is not about the charge it is about the bail- each time a low level dealer makes a sale to a undercover- they can ask 50,000 per act. So making three buy from her- the state would ask for a 150k and when the arrested her- they claim they found more drugs they added another 50,000 to her bail. Bringing the total of the bail to 200,000. To have McDowell freed- she would have to pay the ten pencent which is 20,000.

The answer to question three - they wanted her to sit in jail for the weekend-before she could see a judge.

Shame on Moccia and The Chief.

Not a good job by the police- it is wrong on so many levels- maybe the federal government should look into this case- and the mayor and chief should be questioned by the US Attorney' s office- because this whole case is a railroad job by the mayor and chief.

The Mayor and Chief- look even worst then they did before- by stacking the deck on this homeless person- why did they make 3 buys and watch her for weeks?

Railroad 101- stack the deck, give high bonds and arrest on Friday- shame on Moccia and his homeboy Rilling.

"GEt Real" You obvioulsy have no idea of how narcotics investigations unfold. So do your homework and find out before you start criticising others for doing the jobs they're paid to do.

I just wonder what your comments would be if she dealt drugs to your children or grandchildren. For God sakes; she was standing outside an elementary school with drugs on her when she got picked up. What more do you need to know?

i agree get real. something is fishy here. if she had sold drugs in front of a school,weeks after her arrest for so call theft of education which to me is a thousand times worse than so call stealing education,which this african american calls ( busing,remember brown v. the board of ed oops,i guess we were supposed to have forgotten that part of our history)they would have locked her up then. i worked for the criminal defense division,here in ny,legal aid society,and a direct sale don't need no investigating,they lock you up on the spot.and what ever happened to innocent til proven guilty?. i think ms. mc dowell was getting too much support from the public,now the so call powers that be is trying to crush that. tanya stay strong, and fight the good fight of faith.your dream for your son,was the same dream that dr. king and so many other americans fought and died for. i'm 65 and for what i have seen,this country has not changed when it comes to black /negroes americans,they still want to keep their foot on our necks,but they don't have any problems with millions of illegal aliens sneaking into this country through the back door, and stealing millions of dollars in anti-poverty model cities money targeted for and off the backs of african-mericans from the 60's. why don't the so call authorities,go after illegal alienfor theft of educational resources,housing food stamps,healthcare, jobs,e, they ain't even suppose to be in this country,much less benefit from our resources.

Rilling- The Mcdowell arrest is a railroad job- why did you watch McDowell sell drugs for weeks-in front of a school? Shame on you and the mayor- for allowing this to occur- just to put McDowell away for life- if you want to get rid of drugs - make a buy and a bust.

However, you and your homeboy Moccia- decided to railroad this young woman- by charging her with stealing education and stacking the deck- against her. Rilling ,your just a political hack - who will do anything to keep Moccia in office- including making the city look like some place out of the 1960.s

I know which way i am going to to vote, dump the Moccia/Rilling ticket.

Jabster- just because I dont agree with the Moccia/Rilling ticket - I support drug dealing? So let me get this straight- Rilling and his boys watched a person sell drugs in front of a school for weeks- they should have arrested her- in the act day one.

What a waste of taxpayers dollars and how much crack and weed did Rilling and his boys take off the street- 24 bags street value 240.00 bucks and some weed after July 1, 2011- will be a 150 dollar fine.

Sounds like the police is fleecing the taxpayers here - will be interesting to find out how much money Rilling and his boys spent on watching McDowell sell drugs in front of a school for weeks. I am sure- they spent thousands- what a joke.

Rilling and his boys allowed a person to sell drugs in front of a school- just to stack the deck against a homeless person- get real.

Shame on the Moccia/Rilling ticket!

Wow - just because I support the police for doing a great job for getting a dangerous drug-dealing criminal off the streets I'm a racist. You need to look in the mirror to see the real racist. McDowell decided to go out and sell drugs ON HER OWN multiple times, so don't blame the police. Why wasn't she spending time with her son instead? If she did she would not have been arrested. Stop making excuses for McDowell -- she is addicted to crime and she will not stop. She has no regard for public safety.

Rilling and his boys added 28 new charges- to McDowell- this is a railroad and we need to call in the Feds to look in to the Norwalk Police Chief and the Mayors conduct. This is something out of the Bull Conner's textbook and now is the time to rally- to protest the Moccia/Rilling ticket- if they can take a homeless person and stack the deck on them- I have no confidence in this Mayor and Chief- time to organize and kick them out of office.

Moccia/Rilling are playing politics with law enforcement- that is a nuts- they let a person sells drugs in front of a school for weeks just to stack the deck.

This is your tax dollars folks- the police are the ones who made more money off the investigation then McDowell did.

Letting a person sell drugs in front of a school for weeks is nuts you take them down day one.

Moccia, Rilling and his boys fleeced the city with a bogus investigation into a low level drug dealer- shame on these dudes.

@ Get Real, I agree with you if one is selling drugs in front of a school you are arrested on the spot. Now if McDowell gets convicted of her stealing education, and providing it is true she was selling drugs those charges will be added to her current charges. I have known people who have lived across the street from the school, and have gotten arrested for even having their own personal drugs, and they were not selling. They landed in jail for awhile. While I am for the police providing they are honest and I know of some incidents of the Norwalk Police being shady, and not so nice.

Jabster- Come on man? Moccia and Rilling let McDowell sell drugs in front of a school for weeks- just to stack the deck. They also fleeced the taxpayers- by paying paying the police - to investigate a low level drug dealer- which netted 240.00 bucks worth of crack and weed amounts- that would result in a 150 dollar fine.

This is a huge scandal!

What a rip off- Moccia/ Rilling are wasting our money with political games!

How much drugs was sold in front of the school- before the police decided to act? This is nuts.

Dump Moccia and Rilling

jabster, if they are so professional, where's the video tape,or even an audio tape,that's what professional law enforcement do. black people do have law enforcement career folks in their families,and friends,even have some white folks law enforcement people around too. it's a shame brain dead people such as yourself rather believe the worst,rather than waiting to get the facts first. and unless they have video tapes or audio tapes of what they now claim, it's bogus. my momma always said that it takes all kinds to make the world, i guess she was talking about people like you,if it don't fit don't force it,and this is not fitting,not without supporting documentation in black and white,no pun intended.oh yeah, this is still america,innocent til proven guilty. and why you keep bringing up tawana brawley,she has nothing to do with this,never was accused of any of these crimes,i guess that's your bigotry showing,watch yourself,your true color is shining through. and by the way,everything that tawana said happened to her did.

There may well be video tapes and audio recordings. The police don't tell the reporters everything, but don't bet there are no tapes. This sounds like the normal police procedure for undercover buys, followed by lab tests to verify the product really is narcotics, followed by application to the court for arrest warrants. It all takes time, nobody gets arrested for peddling fake drugs, and most case never go to trial after the defense lawyers get a look at the evidence.

Moccia and Rilling should answer my question- why did the police allow McDowell to sell drugs in front of a school for weeks? We will get a better understanding- as these officers are questioned by McDowell's lawyers- maybe members of the Common Council's public safety committtee- could ask the Chief some questions.

The police used thousands of dollars in payroll and man hours targeting a low level drug dealer- which in the end -netted a small amount of drugs. These guys - are wasting your tax dollars folks!

The Moccia/ Rilling ticket- is one people should reject at the ballot box in November!

Let's get a Mayor and Chief that is proactive- not reactive!

Dump Moccia and Rilling- the dudes would cannot no make a buy and bust and allowed McDowell to sell drugs in front of a school.

Bring on the election I am ready to vote these guy's out of office.

Jabster- the Mayor and Rilling have failed when it comes to drugs in Norwalk. These dudes spent thousands of our taxpaying dollars-chasing McDowell around the state-this was a targeted effort- which results in a low level arrest.

Moccia/Rilling ticket- is a national disgrace - vote these dudes- out of office .

Rilling said the police watched McDowell sell drugs in front of a school for weeks- WTF?

The Norwalk Police have rip off the taxpayers- with a bogus investigation which did not get a lot of drugs off the street.

Moccia and Rilling have fleeced the city-next time make a buy and bust-not use our tax money to settle your personal beef's.

Wake of people-Moccia and Rilling are out of touch!

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i don't want to say too much,i might get edited, so all i have to say is,WHERE ARE THE TAPES OF THIS SO CALL INVESTIGATION.

Moccia and Rilling do not know how to protect the citizens of Norwalk-the chief said the police watched McDowell sell drugs in front of a school for weeks. This was a street level dealer not a drug king pin- so let me wrap my mind around the police point. If a person is selling drugs in front of a school- the police will not take them down day one- they will watch for weeks and make three buys? Sounds like the police fleeced the taxpayers- using thousand of dollars and a lot of man hours.

The Mayor and Chief- do not have the right to let the good times roll with our tax dollars. I give Moccia and Rilling two thumbs down!

since i live out of state, what paper is it in. i'm sure it's local. i'll go on line to see the info.

hi jabster, please post the news article you are referring to,in your june 14th post,where you say the alleged tapes have been turned over to the court by the prosecutor. i would like to read the newspaper article where it's written that( they do exist)quote-unquote. thanks.

jabster, thanks for that bit of info. now can you tell me what printed newspaper you saw article in. you have, hour 6/14/11 what does that mean?. thanks.

Deotha, Jabster is referring to the newspaper The Hour on 6/14/11 ( http://www.thehour.com/story/506363 )

Thank you to the authors for this article. This is the best coverage, and moreover the best debate comments section. Special thanks to David Gurliacci for moderating the comments!! I'm sure it's hard to find the time to do that, but unfortunately, people lose their manners and (I hope!) say things they would never say in public if they weren't hiding behind a computer screen. I've been looking for information about this online all day on and off after reading The Norwalk Hour's barely comprehensible articles in their print edition. The Hour can't seem to find someone to copyedit the *articles* before they go to print, much less deal with comments from ordinary people who aren't professional writers.

thanks susan, but forgive me,i did not see any thing about officer wearing recording device,and taped mc dowell selling him drugs,etc. did i miss something?. thanks.

First of all can we say ENTRAPMENT...Second of all, I would like to know how much this sting cost the Police Department. To catch someone with less than $500 worth of drugs this sting was not cost effective at a time when the budget is supposed to be so tight. I'm sure it cost the police department at least $10,000. The city could have used that money to save a librarian. At the very least they could have used it to catch a dealer higher up on the food chain. No wonder the police department is so ineffective. They can't catch a murderer instead they invest large amounts of money on settling personal disputes...Third of all if you judge this woman, I would dare you to live a day in her shoes. I am not condoning selling drugs but the money she made wouldn't even gas up my car for a month. She was no big time drug dealer. In today's economy you have to do what you have to to survive. I have income coming in but its still hard. She has none coming in. Peolple committ suicide in conditions that aren't as bad as hers. Others kill themselves and their whole families over less. She's in a tough place. While normal unemployment is about 9%, unemployment for single, black, mothers is around 20-30%. So yeah she's having a tough time....Finally, laws that entitle homeless children an education are not dependent on the mother having a clean record. Homeless people hardly ever have their life together and are usually at their lowest point. The child is still entitled to an education.

I also want to add, all my black and hispanic folks stand up who know the system is just there to keep you down. They look away when white people do wrong but have a magnifying glass on us...Vote 2011 and 2012...STAND UP...

Jabster she was not selling 7 days a week. They caught her three times over the past 3 weeks. Read the Stamford Advocate for a sell of $110 and $130. So take that. On the same ground that he is entitled to an education in Bridgeport, he was entitled to one in Norwalk. He does not have a permament residence in Brideport. Also, 75% of the money they are trying to get from McDowell was state and federal funding which he was entitled to anyway. Tired of the Republican bull. Let's get some people in that know what they are doing. Rilling and Alvord can go with Moccia. They need to stop laundering money with all these fake construction projects too. Hope the feds come take them all away soon....If you ask me McDowell probably has dirt on these Norwalk dirty cops and Moccia who is rumored to have been seen trying to buy drugs downtown.

McDowell is a dangerous criminal who got what she deserved. PLB, this is America. We have laws here. If you break the law and you get caught, you have to face the consequences.

Interesting that you know McDowell's drug selling schedule so well ... could it be that you were one of her customers?

plb, i agree wholeheartedly with you, if you live in conn,please check out the hour newspaper 6/14/11 from page 1 -4, and see if there's any information, concerning alleged tape recordings of any kind mentioned, regarding the alleged drugs sales and their investigation. some one has posted that there is. thank you for voicing your views,so passionately. with these new alleged charges, let's not take our focus off the imperative situation of her son, and his rights to a equal,and qualitative education. and a decent and permanent home, and now since the possibilities exist that he may be without his mother,and at the age of five,and a african-american male child,lord what is his % of survival rate. i just wonder if dr. king could see his people now, and all the suffering,and fighting that we are still enduring,still fighting for a just and equal life that has already been paid for with so much,blood and strife,and lives. when will it end?.

i see delete, on post, 6/15 9:12 am. what's the problem. am i not being respectful,or did i curse, or did i not stick to the topic and concerns of the situation. please explain. thank you

@Jabster...Im not but I hear Moccia might be. And apparently the police department is...

yes i am dr.king's people, as you put it. check out our history,negroes. check out his history before you speak. you know nothing of the man,or his people. who died and left you in charge.judge,jury,and executioner. and yes this is still america,thank God. check the u.s. census,he was a negro ,and so am i.check out some of his speeches,as he refers to negroes,his people. and he would never kick a person when they were down, he lived his life lifting people up.regardless of who they were. back then that's the way negroes were raised, and he would not be disgusted with mc dowell, he would be disgusted with this government and this historical double standard system. thank you very much.

@Deotha. Yeah, the Hour is a Republican paper. The Stamford Advocate got the affidavit and broke down the details. Not the she was right but The Hour made it sound like she was some kind of big time drug dealer when it was nothing compared to the real problem they have on the streets.

thanks PLB.

someone has attempted to sabotage my email. this just happened about 30 mins ago. i believe i know what's going on. will contact fcc and see what can be done.

To all the folks who continue to support Ms McDowell. I agree the felony larceny charges were very unusual and nobody ever did come up with a reason why this woman was singled out of all the others for "special treatment". Those charges will probably be dismissed for a variety of reasons.

The narcotics sale cases are another matter and will probably be treated apart from the larceny case. I know how the regional narcotics task force has worked for years and it is almost unheard of for any lawyer to go to trial against the overwhelming evidence they put together before an arrest. You can believe what you want about the police targetting her, but, there was a meeting at Columbus school and a promise by the Chief to target the neighborhood after several gunshot incidents. She is charged with dealing drugs in that neighborhood. Even if other dealers got away with dealing in the same neighborhood that is not a defense anymore than pointing out to a cop who stops you for speeding that others are speeding. This same task force may have gotten other dealers that we won't hear about until after arrests are made. It is sad, but her own lawyer says she made "dumb" choices.

when you and your child is homeless and destitute,making dumb decisions is not surprising.

david,please unsubscribe all emails. i went to your help format, because there is no unsubscribe link on the email,also there was one post requesting to unbsubscribe,and stated that it was impossible to do so,and there is no link on email to do so.thank you.

Chief Rilling and his boys are letting the good times role, your tax dollars- folks and Moccia supports this fleecing! How much crack did they get off the street- 23 bags of crack-which is about 30 bucks worth wholesale and 230 bucks worth retail.

I am hearing - they spent thousands of dollars and used up a few hundred man hours- for what? A low level drug dealer-that a patrolman-could have jumped out and arrested McDowell- in the act.

Rilling says the police watched McDowell sell drugs for weeks- WTF?

Why did the police make three buys?

How much did all this cost the taxpayers?

Why did the police let McDowell sell drugs in front of a school for weeks?

Why did the police arrested McDowell on Friday?

Did they really recruit a police officer from Bridgeport and/or Stamford to join in?

This is a huge fleecing of Norwalk Citizens!

Dump the Moccia/Rilling Ticket!

Crime does pay- for Rilling and his homeboys - who fleeced taxpayers with this bogus McDowell Case. The Moccia/Rilling are circus clowns who look worst today- then they did before. Rilling and his homeboys could not make a simple buy and bust. They wanted to use a lot of tax dollars and police resources from three towns just to catch a homeless-low level street pusher.

This was personal- for Moccia and Rilling who lost the PR WAR. Wake up, Norwalk- letting the good times role with our tax dollars is a NO NO.

Shame on these dudes!

Moccia and Rilling are the real heroes? NOT!

Dump the circus clowns and bring change to Norwalk.

The only clowns are McDowell and her supporters. We are all proud of the strong leadership demonstrated by the Mayor and the Police to bring McDowell to justice!

Moccia and Rilling are circus clowns- who just opened up a new scandal- the CT Post has a great story out saying the Norwalk Police had it out for McDowell. This is going to be a big scandal- as more and more reporters look into this case- they will see this was a payback arrest- that cost the city a lot of money and netted a low amount of drugs.

How much money did this cost?

It is way past time for a change in the Mayor's office, but there is no scandal in McDowell's arrest for dealing drugs.
The Mayor's unfortunate comments when she was charged with felony larceny for sending her son to Brookside school are an embarassment that attracted more attention to that case than it deserved.

Moccia/Rilling ticket- is fleecing our community- and we need to bring common sense to our local government. How much money did this McDowell taskforce really cost?

The CT Post is right on- the Moccia/Rilling ticket targeted McDowell and the world will see that the mayor and chief- abuse their office and stacked the deck against this woman.

Moccia/Rilling is letting the good times roll with our money- this investigation cost so much money- that we could have hired a new teacher or bought a new police car.

Instead, Rilling and his boys created a mini army to stalk McDowell. This is such a scandal- and the mayor and police chief should be interviewed by the US Attorney office.

Moccia and Rilling do not represent this town well- and will take down the whole republican ticket.

Dump Moccia and Rilling.

frank, if you think that the police had to put her in a line-up and didn't know who she was,i got a bridge to sell you, i live out of state, and i know who she is,you trying to say the local police dept didn't know who she was ,with all the publicity.plus i read that they was suppose to have gotten a tip. i guess the tipster,didn't say who she was, so who did they get the tip on?, ha ha that's funny. is this twilight zone or what?.

The Moccia/Rilling ticket should be rejected at the ballot box. People who dont want to see our tax dollars used in a reckless and foolish way- should call a few friends and ask them to vote against Moccia- who has made Norwalk appear- like a place in the 1960's,with in the deep south.

The police budget should be cut because of this scandal.

Deotha:
I did not say the Norwalk police did not know her. This was a regional narcotics task force effort. The buys were made by undercover cops from other depts. (stamford, in this case). The "identify her from a photo lineup" was something I took from a story in the POST where a reporter was shown a large file and some of the content.
Regional Narcotics task forces have worked in this area for many years. Norwalk officers worked undercover in other towns, cops from other towns worked undercover in Norwalk. Despite what you may read here, she is not that important to the Norwalk Police. The neighborhood around Columbus school and a short distance from Police Hqs was a problem with gunshots during the day near the school. The Chief listened to complaints from parents and faculty and promised to focus a lot of attention on the neighborhood to make it a safer place for a school. One of the resources he used was a regional narcotics task force which has been working Fairfield County for years very effectively. The fact that this woman got caught is the result of some very poor decisions she made. It is a shame to see anybody get caught up in dealing drugs, but don't blame the police. They were looking for drug dealers and she came along. Do you want me to tell you they were sorry she did ? They were looking for results and would have grabbed me if they caught me dealing, and I am a retired norwalk Cop.

frank, thanks for the info. yes i could tell that you were in law enforcement or at some point had been,but i would just like to clear up one point. i read that they (the police) got a tip,so how could they have just come along. don't understand that?. thanks.

correction-how could she had just come along?

This was a huge taskforce that cost the taxpayers of Norwalk thousands of dollars. This money could have been used to save a job or by a new police car. However, the Moccia/Rilling team decided to target McDowell- because she was winning the PR WAR.

Moccia/Rilling fleeced this community and surrounding towns- this was a over the top -political payback arrest.

Moccia/Rilling did not get the memo- this is not the deep south- during the 1960's- they are both out of steps with the mainstream.

If the repubicans nominate Moccia- they are going to send the whole ticket down in flames.

You cannot citywide- by firing up South Norwalk.

Congratulations to the Police and all of the help from Stamford and other towns to finally get rid of McDowell. The streets of South Norwalk are much safer without her drugs being peddled around - especially near the children at Columbus School where she was selling them. What a big scam she tried to pull - now the whole country knows what a cheating, lying criminal she really is. All of the McDowell supporters have egg on their faces.

Jabster- you remind me of Baghdad bob- alway's spinning the Moccia regimes rhetoic. Rilling said the police watched McDowell sell drugs in front of the school for weeks. Why didnt they take her down- day one?

The reason, they wanted to stack the deck, make 3 buys in Norwalk and 2 in Bridgport- and the use our tax money- to put together a huge taskforce to to target a low level drug user.

People are talking about this railroad job all around the state- and the police look worst to me- then they did yesterday. Moccia and Rilling used our tax dollars to settle a score- you know it Jabster and the whole state know its.

Dump Moccia

Dump McDowell. If she wasn't selling drugs, then the Police would not need to arrest her. Money is already budgeted for the Police Dept. Money well spent - taxpayers are very satisfied to get this drug dealer off the streets. The Norwalk Police, along with the Fire Department are the pride of this City - and they have all of our support. On the other hand, McDowell is a drug dealer, bank robber, alleged pimp, liar, cheater - her criminal record proves that she cost the taxpayers more dollars over the years.

DEOTHA
Neither of us knows what information was given in the "tip". If someone reported Ms McDowell was selling drugs near the school or if it was reported there was an ongoing outdoor market near the school where drugs were being sold. One of the stories reports that at least one sale took place in another part of town. Once a first sale takes place, the undercover cop will meet the dealer wherever the dealer agrees to meet. I have not seen any police files or talked to anyone involved in the case, so I am just making educated guesses based on my own experience and the bits and pieces published in various places. It would be very hard for me to believe the Norwalk Police asked a regional task force to work in Norwalk for the sole purpose of getting more charges against one person. That is just not how it works and the Chief would be risking his credibility with the agencies involved if he were to make such a request. Usually, the requesting chief has to indicate he has a drug dealing hotspot where there is potential to get a number of bigger dealers.

john, thanks for the info. the statement you made regarding the 6 trillion failure " THE GREAT SOCIETY PROGRAMS".first of all it was not a failure,it was one of the biggest shams,and scams, against the negro/african-american citizens,the only atrocity,second to slavery. thanks to ted kennedy,and lyndon johnson, for spearheading and signing off on the 1965 immigration and nationality act,this country will never be the same again. although the programs aka, "model cities anti- poverty programs, did not benefit the entitlement beneficiaries,it was intended for,it did enable the 1965 immigration act. diverting civil servant jobs,quality and equal education,small business ownership. on the job training programs ie, construction , contracting,etc,instead of being used to import millions of immigrants, giving them work visa's,when ted kennedy stated on the senate floor,that americans would not lose their jobs,there would not be millions of immigrants coming in yearly, their would be no ethnic mixing. lies lies,lies. the promise made to dr. king and his people,once again was nothing but trickery in it's highest formthat's why when i hear people say how lbj did so much for the civil rights movement i have to laugh,with a bitter in my mouth,all he did was enable the old BAIT AND SWITCH,political scam,and all of a sudden every immigrant that was brought in america, was a so-call minority. if those programs had reached the black communities,we wouldn't be talking about ms. mc Dowell.

That "Great Society comment wasn't mine. Some of thos programs did reach some of the black community, but nowhere near what we had hoped.

sorry,wrong john. but the "some" of those programs you are referring to, was the BAIT and SWITCH, in the 60's,and that was only,until they got the immigrants in and set them up with those programs. african-americans, still paying for everyone's comfort and prosperity, even internationally. those programs went a long way.way pass us.